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11 July.

THE BAITING OF THE TRAP, 1585-1586 - topics: travel,court_patronage,household_family,money_legal,letters_books,angelic_spiritual

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11 July. - Daybook Entries. Records travel, court patronage, household family, money legal, letters books: He discoursed with E.K.

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Records travel, court patronage, household family, money legal, letters books: He discoursed with E.K. and me that he thought we might obtain favour to return to Prague again if we would; that he had found this Nuncius Apostolicus more courteous than Malaspina, of whom he reported also, that it was credibly informed him that he was sore...

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THE BAITING OF THE TRAP, 1585-1586

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travel,court_patronage,household_family,money_legal,letters_books,angelic_spiritual

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He discoursed with E.K. and me that he thought we might obtain favour to return to Prague again if we would; that he had found this Nuncius Apostolicus more courteous than Malaspina, of whom he reported also, that it was credibly informed him that he was sore offended Il 197 Il that we gave him no more honourable title in our speeches to him than 'Reverendissima Vestra Paternitas'. This Pucci framed the discourse of his talk to persuade us to think well of this Episcopus Placentius, that he was charitable towards us, and sorry that we were so uncourteously used, that he meant nothing else in his suit to the Emperor against us but that we might be examined, and then being found faulty, we should be sent to Rome: but after that he had begun to move against us, that he found the Emperor more eagerly bent against us than he himself was. Note. The Lord Rosenberg told us that when he did (in our behalf) advise the Emperor of his error committed in our extermination, that the Emperor answered that this Nuncius from his first audience did urge so vehemently against us, and also the Pope had sent commandment by letter to him to deliver us and send us to Rome, that he was forced in manner to do as he did. But if the commandment or his decree were to be made again, that it should not pass, or if this Nuncius Apostolicus had not sent this decree away to Rome, that he should not send it, &c. This I note in respect of the contrariety in the Nuncio's assertion, and the Emperor's, of our so hard usage. The foresaid eleventh day of July the foresaid Fr. Pucci, to prove this his intended persuasion of the Nuncius' good meaning toward us, and to make us believe that great benefit would ensue our going to Rome, did bring forth unto us a writing of his own hand which he read unto us, and at the hearing of it we mused much for many causes. I asked him then why the Nuncius had not subscribed this writing. 'It is all one,' said he, 'for that.' 'Hath he heard this read?' quoth I. 'Yea, that he hath heard me read this three several times unto him,' said he. ~d if you like of it,' saith he, 'wherein his power serveth him not to perform as much as is specified in the writing, he will make and use means to have it from his Holiness.' 'Well,' said I, 'take a copy hereof, Mr Kelly,' for I was riding toward Saalfeld about a house getting. Thereupon said he, 'Contented.' 'But I think it meeter to save and keep the original itself,' said E.K. 'Well,' said Pucci. And so the original was delivered to E.K. After 10 of the clock the same Friday, being the II day of this month, after breakfast, I rid toward Saalfeld about the house of the Earl Albert of Schwarzenberg, &c.

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He discoursed with E.K. and me that he thought we might obtain favour to return to Prague again if we would; that he had found this Nuncius Apostolicus more courteous than Malaspina, of whom he reported also, that it was credibly informed him that he was sore offended Il 197 Il that we gave him no more honourable title in our speeches to him than 'Reverendissima Vestra Paternitas'. This Pucci framed the discourse of his talk to persuade us to think well of this Episcopus Placentius, that he was charitable towards us, and sorry that we were so uncourteously used, that he meant nothing else in his suit to the Emperor against us but that we might be examined, and then being found faulty, we should be sent to Rome: but after that he had begun to move against us, that he found the Emperor more eagerly bent against us than he himself was. Note. The Lord Rosenberg told us that when he did (in our behalf) advise the Emperor of his error committed in our extermination, that the Emperor answered that this Nuncius from his first audience did urge so vehemently against us, and also the Pope had sent commandment by letter to him to deliver us and send us to Rome, that he was forced in manner to do as he did. But if the commandment or his decree were to be made again, that it should not pass, or if this Nuncius Apostolicus had not sent this decree away to Rome, that he should not send it, &c. This I note in respect of the contrariety in the Nuncio's assertion, and the Emperor's, of our so hard usage. The foresaid eleventh day of July the foresaid Fr. Pucci, to prove this his intended persuasion of the Nuncius' good meaning toward us, and to make us believe that great benefit would ensue our going to Rome, did bring forth unto us a writing of his own hand which he read unto us, and at the hearing of it we mused much for many causes. I asked him then why the Nuncius had not subscribed this writing. 'It is all one,' said he, 'for that.' 'Hath he heard this read?' quoth I. 'Yea, that he hath heard me read this three several times unto him,' said he. ~d if you like of it,' saith he, 'wherein his power serveth him not to perform as much as is specified in the writing, he will make and use means to have it from his Holiness.' 'Well,' said I, 'take a copy hereof, Mr Kelly,' for I was riding toward Saalfeld about a house getting. Thereupon said he, 'Contented.' 'But I think it meeter to save and keep the original itself,' said E.K. 'Well,' said Pucci. And so the original was delivered to E.K. After 10 of the clock the same Friday, being the II day of this month, after breakfast, I rid toward Saalfeld about the house of the Earl Albert of Schwarzenberg, &c.